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Dick Denison comments on PRE-OWNED AIRCRAFT MARKET DISTRACTED BY BOTTOM FEEDERS

Dick Denison — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:04:00 +0000

I am finding that those of us who are selling aircraft that are older than 20 years, have a difficult time finding financing for our customers.

I think the values have bottom out.

Dick Denison comments on PRE-OWNED AIRCRAFT MARKET DISTRACTED BY BOTTOM FEEDERS

Dick Denison — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:03:16 +0000

I am finding that those of us who are selling aircraft that are older than 20 years, have a difficult time finding financing for our customers.

I think the values have bottom out.

Dick Denison comments on PRE-OWNED AIRCRAFT MARKET DISTRACTED BY BOTTOM FEEDERS

Dick Denison — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:02:40 +0000

I am finding that those of us who are selling aircraft that are older than 20 years have a difficult time finding financing for our customers.

I think the values have bottom out.

Keith Tomlin comments on PRE-OWNED AIRCRAFT MARKET DISTRACTED BY BOTTOM FEEDERS

Keith Tomlin — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 13:55:24 +0000

Hi Carl

Thanks for your informed view of the market, the only thing I an confused by is that for me the "bottom feeder" is the buyer trying to buy cheap and is an analogy with fish who feed off the bottom of the sea bed. What he looks for is a "distress sale" which is what I think you really mean and there is no doubt that there remains a problem convincing bottom feeders that one distressed sale does not make the market.

Keep up the good work

Regards

Carl Janssens comments on CHARTS — MAY 27, 2009

Carl Janssens — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:16:28 +0000

Reason and common sense are some of the key factors in perception. True, some aircraft makes and models have limited sales data. With this said, specific aircraft segments do not operate in a vacuum. Values have always trended according to the particular market dynamics within the pre-owned market. The Bluebook has always identified and constantly reviewed these relationships. If a particular model has no activity in this market, it is reasonable to assume either the posted values are too high, or there is a total lack of market interest. In either case, such conclusions would support reductions in value. Trending values in a price guide is nothing new. In the final analysis, the judge and jury is not the Bluebook. The real judge and jury will always be the checkbook.

Howard Foster comments on CHARTS — MAY 27, 2009

Howard Foster — Fri, 29 May 2009 23:49:47 +0000

The market is completely petrified and frozen in fear.I doubt if anyone can stimulate any buyer interest at any price. Right now, there seems to be some evidence that sales are being executed at about 1/2 of Blue book asking retail price. If that is in fact the case,then the blue book should so state.

Sammy Lee comments on CHARTS — MAY 27, 2009

Sammy Lee — Fri, 29 May 2009 16:30:31 +0000

It has always been my understanding that the values in the Aircraft Bluebook was completely based on aircraft sales. Which means the value they sold for was averaged out per make and model and Aircraft Bluebook showed those numbers as Retail and Wholesale. I know that many of the changes made to the summer issue and to my knowledge there were no sales in the particular catagory and the numbers went down drastically without any sales proof. Thus all the bankers, aircraft owners, and dealers are outraged. It has to be some common ground are the whole system will fall and none of us want that. Aircraft Bluebook must only list prices of aircraft that they can truely back up from reliable sources that can be proven in a court of law should it ever come down to that. Respectfully, Sammy Lee

Sammy Lee comments on CHARTS — MAY 27, 2009

Sammy Lee — Fri, 29 May 2009 16:30:19 +0000

Dylan Goodwin - Aircraft Bluebook comments on BUSINESS JET BUYERS, SELLERS DON'T AGREE ON VALUES

Dylan Goodwin - Aircraft Bluebook — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:13:20 +0000

The conversation is welcome, but just wanted to give a reminder to keep the language family-friendly

vertika comments on BUSINESS JET BUYERS, SELLERS DON'T AGREE ON VALUES

vertika — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 06:27:41 +0000

It is not about gloom and doom or buyers market, it is about hurting the emotions of the citizens company like BJets has already created this huge wall and differentiated the segments as luxurious and non luxurious. In this recession where people are struggling for their survival……… then comes this kind of luxury product? Where is the world going? No wonder the BJets employees also behave the same way and treat the PA’s as [edited out]. There is a dark side to Business jet aviation also……